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Tuesday, December 15, 2009
  Medjugorie and Its Controversy
Medjugorie and its controversy arise again. Personally, I look upon this controversy with a great deal of disgust and with a deep disdain for both sides. I mean whether they see themselves as protagonists or antagonists. I consider the actions of the Croatian Bishops deplorable. I consider very real lack of reaction by Rome to the deliberate ignoring of shepherding dreadful. Is it any wonder the Churchmen can be seen and considered as so far off the mark in the Greek sense? Can I make my feelings any clearer as a catholic of 72 years? Look at the young children and consider their age when this first started. They were very young, inexperienced in their religion, in their teens, and younger, in need of the proper help that should have come from their shepherd. Where was it? Look at the priests who descended upon them. No matter what anyone thinks, the children did not get any great spiritual help. No matter how you look upon their abilities or upon the actions of these priests, who faced with matters beyond their experience failed these children and it was the fault of their local ordinary. A proper spiritual guide should have been appointed and all the self-seeking pompous fools that approached them should have had to seek permission to speak with them, in the presence of a church constituted authority. Instead, their every action was either praised or vilified. How many I ask had the credentials they claimed, to interview these young children. How many of us in our early teens could have withstood the strain of being interviewed without the local Church’s very real protection. How many of us at that age could have handled wisely the amount of cash that started to flow in. The behavior of the churchmen was abysmal.

Did no one look to see why Medjugorie happened and why? Has anyone considered what caused Medjugorie? The loose cannons, both in habits and gowns, were not interested. Why should they, these fools used Medjugorie as a method to push forward with their own agendas. Unauthorized experts interviewed them and frightened peasant children, as their bishop of that time named them, said many things, which I think they were made to regret. I ask because of this lack of good spiritual guidance in the spiritual life, which the children were given by Holy Mary, has it been advanced by the Church’s actions? I do not think so and quite honestly all you pundits and experts who pan the children revise your thinking and consider that question honestly in prayer as I did. This is the information two of us in separate places received. See my earlier blog about half way in.

mikehurcum.blogspot.com/2008/07/they-are-at-it-again-etter-to-confrere.html"(Please cut and paste)

Also I recommend Lanspergius on the subject, so for your spirit filled minds I give you the part of his homily that will not sit well in many egos. I believe with confidence God does not need yours or my permission or any hierarchs to show both his needs and send His mother to whom or where He wants. He does as He knows is best for us. Furthermore He expects both us and His victim to improve in holiness, even if they are starting from scratch. Why else would He bother just for His own amusement. What will you faux experts do when he sends a voice of thunder to examine all our wrongs?

"And yet these ordinary, familiar and simple comparisons are explained in words as ordinary and simple. We shall find it so in the Revelations of this Saint; and even as the instructions given to the Apostles were not intended solely for themselves, so also our loving Master permits us to know and to be instructed by what He vouchsafed to communicate to one of His most blessed Saints.
After His Resurrection, we find no change ill His manner of addressing His disciples, unless, indeed, there be a deeper tenderness in His words and actions. He is anxious that they should dine when wearied with their long night's fruitless toil, and He Himself provides their meal; for when they come to land, they see" hot coals lying, and a fish laid thereon, and bread." Ah! who but Jesus would have had these "hot coals" ready, and provided not only necessary food, but even the luxury of fire 1 And so we find in the life of this dear Saint, that she also is invited many times to mystical repasts, wherein not her body, but her soul is fed, and not her soul only, but also the souls of all those who are privileged to read or hear of these mysterious banquets.
And yet in reading the lives of those Saints who have been favored with intimate communications from their Spouse, there are few persons who do not select, on the most arbitrary principles-or rather, on no principles whatsoever-certain circumstances which they consider improbable, and certain communications which they think unlikely or even unreasonable; and these they reject and condemn, while they believe and accept what seems to their judgment possible or true. But who shall limit the condescension of a God who has died of love? Who shall say He may condescend so far to His creatures, but no further? Who shall say He may communicate Himself in this fashion, but not in that? Who shall venture to lay down rules for the Spirit, which "breatheth where He will? "Who among men is he that can know the counsel of God? Or who can think what the will of God is? For the thoughts of mortal men are fearful, and our counsel uncertain. For the corruptible body is a load upon the soul, and the earthly habitation presseth down the mind that museth upon many things. And hardly do we guess aright at things that are upon earth: and with labor do we find the things that are before us, But the things that are in heaven, who shall search out? And who shall know Thy thought, except Thou give wisdom, and send Thy Holy Spirit from above?
Nay, rather let us listen in reverent awe when God permits us the favor of hearing these blessed communications, which He has been pleased to make to those whom He has admitted to this singular intimacy with Himself. If we are privileged to have patrons who hold high places at court, let us thankfully avail ourselves of their condescension in admitting us to the intimacy of the King, in allowing us the privilege of being sharers in His most hidden counsels, and of knowing, as only His beloved can, the secrets of His love. It is remarkable that those only whom God has favored with a more than ordinary intimacy, have invariably been distinguished for simplicity. Whether it is that the Almighty wills to confound the wisdom of the wise, by admitting those whom they might contemn to a share in "His most signal favors, or whether it is that such are more peculiarly fitted to be recipients of His grace, we would not even conjecture; yet such appears to be" the ordinary rule of spiritual life. Perhaps few, if any, were so favored with the intimacy of our Lord as the Saint of whom we write. His absence was an exceptional case, His presence her ordinary enjoyment. The whispers of His love were heard alike in the stillness of the night, in the psalmody of the choir, in the ordinary duties of religious life, and in the less acceptable and more trying moments spent in converse with strangers. The Dove seemed ever whispering in her inmost soul; or rather, might we not say that she lay ever in the Wounded Heart of her Spouse-the true home of His beloved ones j and there what other speech could fall upon her listening ear, save the accents of that voice, whose lowest murmur ravishes the very Seraphim in trance of ecstatic praise 1
And when Jesus vouchsafes to speak as a friend to his friend-nay, rather, as a spouse to his bride-why should we be amazed that His converse should be of that familiar and tender nature which characterizes the human love which He has sanctioned, and which has become pure and holy since He, through His Church, has elevated it to the dignity of a Sacrament? Nay, long before this elevation and dignity was vouchsafed to human love, such intercourse even in an inspired volume-is taken to typify that which exists between the soul and God.
The words, "My love, My dove, My beautiful one!" were addressed to the bride long before the Bridegroom had appeared as the Incarnate God. And why, when He has vouchsafed to become man, when He has participated in human grief(s), and hallowed human affections oh! why should His accents be less loving, or His voice sound less sweetly in the ear 1 When the day breaks, and the shadows pass away, shall we not also hear those accents, and behold that Face, and obtain some share in these favors, which even here are vouchsafed to more pure and saintly souls 1
The Revelations of St. Gertrude indeed differ from, or rather are distinguished above, those of other saints, in the familiarity and frequency of these heavenly communications. We shall not read of marvelous miracles, of ecstatic flights, of long-continued raptures, of prophetic announcements, though such events are recorded occasionally; the Saint-if we may be permitted the expression lived at home with her Spouse; and hence her life was one continued and almost uninterrupted succession of the highest states of spiritual life.
Were an apology needed for the familiar terms in which this intercourse is described by herself in the one precious book in which she records these favors, or by others, in the continuation of the subject by one of her Religious, we might easily quote many passages, even from Scripture, where such expressions are used and therefore sanctioned".

When this nonsense start? This comparing of miracles unbelieved with those believed. When did miracles or locutions and visions in St Gertrude's case become less than what we allow God to do by our private revelationary opinions? It might have started with Newman's book on Essays on Miracles. What God wants He gets or watch out for fireworks of the most powerful kind. Apply the homily by Lanspergus to the poor victimized children of Medjugorie. Get the mindful droos from professorial minds out of the system and then only then can the infallible Pope the elder brother of the Hierarchy function as he should

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