All Conversations in My Heart
Wednesday, January 12, 2011
  Praying for the lost, fallen and forgotten
There was another time when Mary told me and one other, a woman who prayed with me and my wife, "That if we prayed from the very center of our hearts Christ would even go into hell and rescue those for whom we prayed". St Teresa of Avila calls this, "The interior chamber of our soul"We were wondering about a man who was, we thought way beyond liberal who had not long died. Now I have your attention do I not? Am I a sinner. Is it the filth who would say such a thing? Am I a sinner as I believe God can rescue us or am I one who does not understand what God and His Son has taught? on the Charity of saving our brothers and sisters. It depends I think of what is the suffering necessary  and by whom, for The Trinity to grant salvation. What are the limitations or conditions on salvation? I believe and always have, while this dreadful world exists we can pray for anyone, wherever they are. I can in a manner judge but not sentence or as the Hebrews believed, cannot sentence beyond what God (would give) not Jesus as it is God who judges the Hebrew community. Jesus received the Rod of Judgment after His passion. I believe that since Purgatory is part of this temporal church, those suffering purification there can offer it, their suffering, with God's acceptance, for whom they want. I mean for those we leave behind in this world of sin and torment. That is why I wonder why we make so much of miracles for Sainthood, when they can also be obtained by those who are being purified. Or do you say the mind of one undergoing purification cannot ask for the suffering of others be added to their own? I have often spent time contemplating on the Church Triumphant, Suffering and militant and on the souls fallen, forgotten or lost, Mary often demands or reminds me of friends who need prayers and does talk often on the forgotten. They seem to be people who are not Catholic but have led a life natural charity and still have Adam's sin as a mark upon their soul. Others seem to be from families wiped out by catastrophes.

In the first of my wondering on Mary's statement was, where was it in scriptures. I found in Amos Chapter 9 verse 2, "Though they go down even to hell, thence shall my hand bring them out: and though they climb up to heaven, thence will I bring them down." Psalm 138 makes no bones about it God can go anywhere He likes and we cannot escape Him. The Penny Catechism says, "God is everywhere" The biggest example surely must be Lazarus. We find in John Chapter 11 these verses; Verse 17 Jesus therefore came, and found that he had been four days already in the grave. Verse 43 Lazarus, come forth. 44 And presently he that had been dead came forth, bound feet and hands with winding bands; and his face was bound about with a napkin. Obviously he could not walk and the power of God moved him, literally. What we should see as the Children were taught to pray at Fatima "Draw all souls to heaven"

Now can God if it pleases Him enter into hell. It sure looks like it to me. But there are aspects that must be considered.The Hebrews I must admit ,depending on which Rabbi ,had differing views of hell. But the Hebrews were a community with a covenant with God the Father and it is He who judges them surely? First in the Old Testament what did the Hebrews consider as Hell, today we admit to it being the separation of ourselves from God by the loss of the life in our soul. Dead to Christ Paul calls it. The Hebrews knew that until the Messiah came they were just but not righteous. Psalm 96:16, "that they may shew, That the Lord our God is righteous, and there is no iniquity in Him". The Hebrews knew that they were kept from heaven until the Messiah came to open the Gates for them.They were just but separated from God by their inheritance, Adam's sin. They entered at death of the body into Abraham's bosom and waited patiently for the Messiah. Knowing the Hebrews great penchant for debate I wonder how patiently they waited.

Here is a thought therefore on Lazarus, He was dead, buried and decomposing for 4 days and as God must have judged him. Yet Christ raised Him and under no circumstances would Christ gone against His Father's Judgment. Lazarus must have been a just man. I wonder what state of grace he was in when Christ entered into the underworld and by the will of His Godhead brought Lazarus back. He, Christ, surely entered into Limbo and called back His loyal, faithful and just friend back. Can we all have that friendship with Christ that He will on our behalf call back our friends from our purgatory whether they be forgotten or lost.
Here's the rub I cannot say they are in hell as that might be to big a punishment far more than Jesus has decided. I am nor are any of you God and certainly we do not have all the facts. So I made up my mind to pray for all my relatives and offer up the Prayer before the Crucifix, after Confession, Communion and prayers for the Pope for the one who has been in Purgatory the longest. I suggest and it may be familiar words Try it they will like it.
My other wondering is how do the Hebrews feel about Lazarus, after all they cannot deny most of the Sanhedrin, Pharisees and the High Priest were there on that occasion. Some of you with Hebrew Friends may want to ask them.

I would advise any of you who are scandalized to give a copy of this to your parish priest and ask for his opinion

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